Episode 105
The Electrify Expo Experience: Innovations in Solar and EV Technology
This podcast episode presents an insightful exploration of sustainable living, particularly through the lens of solar energy and electric vehicles. Our presence at the Electrify Expo in Glendale, Arizona, serves as a platform to showcase innovative home solar systems and EV charging solutions tailored for off-grid living. We delve into the transformative potential of solar technology, emphasizing its capacity to reduce utility costs while promoting environmental stewardship. Furthermore, we engage with industry experts who elucidate the intricacies of integrating solar solutions with electric vehicles, highlighting the importance of precise load calculations and tailored installations. As we navigate this pivotal moment in energy consumption, we invite our listeners to consider the profound implications of embracing a sustainable lifestyle.
The Boxcar Universe podcast hosts a compelling dialogue centered around sustainable living, particularly focusing on solar energy and electric vehicles (EVs). In this enlightening episode, the hosts, including Steve Deubel, Adam Johnson from Nirvana Energy, and Sean Lapointe from Mr. Electric, preview the forthcoming Electrify Expo at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. The expo is set to feature cutting-edge solar solutions and EV charging systems, reflecting the growing emphasis on renewable energy sources. As the conversation unfolds, Adam Johnson shares insights into his company's niche in crafting customized solar solutions for off-grid living, addressing the burgeoning interest in energy independence among consumers. The episode effectively captures the essence of sustainability, encouraging listeners to view solar energy not as a mere option but as an indispensable element of modern life.
The discourse also highlights the significance of educating consumers about solar energy systems. The hosts stress the necessity for potential customers to grasp their energy consumption and the myriad advantages of integrating solar technology into their homes. Given the continual rise in utility costs, transitioning to solar solutions emerges as an economically sound decision that also promotes environmental stewardship. The episode underscores the imperative for listeners to engage with the upcoming expo to gain firsthand insights into innovations that can facilitate a sustainable lifestyle.
In a more technical vein, the episode delves into the intricacies of solar installations and EV charging solutions. Adam Johnson elucidates the distinctions between direct and alternating current systems, providing listeners with a foundational understanding of how solar energy is captured and utilized within residential frameworks. He emphasizes the importance of conducting load calculations to ensure solar installations are tailored to meet specific household energy needs. This technical insight is particularly beneficial for homeowners considering solar adoption, as it demystifies the process and reinforces the need for professional expertise. Furthermore, Sean Lapointe discusses the increasing demand for EV charging stations, illustrating that as electric vehicles gain traction, the need for home-based charging solutions will become essential. This interconnected narrative presents a holistic view of sustainable living, advocating for the adoption of these technologies for both economic viability and ecological integrity.
Takeaways:
- The Boxcar Universe podcast emphasizes the significance of sustainable living through solar energy solutions, specifically tailored for off-grid lifestyles.
- Listeners are encouraged to visit the Electrify Expo at State Farm Stadium to explore innovative electric vehicle and solar technologies firsthand.
- Expert guests highlight the advancements in solar technology over recent years, enabling more efficient energy systems for residential and commercial use.
- The discussion points out the importance of proper load calculations when installing solar systems and electric vehicle chargers to ensure optimal performance and safety.
- Podcast guests share insights on the evolving electric vehicle charging infrastructure, including the benefits of home charging stations and their integration with solar power.
- The episode underscores the critical need for ongoing education about energy systems to help consumers navigate their options and make informed decisions.
Transcript
Welcome to this special edition of Boxcar Universe.
Speaker A:This weekend the Boxcar Universe and Ideal Home Improvement team will be at the Electrify Expo at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona.
Speaker A:On today's show we're giving you a sneak peek at our exhibit in the brand new Solar zone at the Expo.
Speaker A:Be sure to stop by our booth where we're showcasing home solar systems, EV charging stations and and custom solar solutions for your off grid living.
Speaker A:The future is bright, so let's plug in and power up.
Speaker B:Since the dawn of time, mankind has searched for ways to shelter themselves from the elements.
Speaker B:Over the centuries these shelters have evolved from bamboo huts to concrete towers.
Speaker B:The last few years there's been a push to save the planet.
Speaker B:Are you ready to embark on a more sustainable lifestyle?
Speaker B:Look no further.
Speaker B:You're about to enter the adventures of Container Home Living.
Speaker B:And now contractor, radio and TV personality and your host for Boxcar Universe, Steve Dubel.
Speaker A:Hi, I'm Steve Dubell, host of Box Car Universe and this is our Electrifying expo special today.
Speaker A:And here's what's coming up on this week's edition of Boxcar Universe.
Speaker A:Adam Johnson is here from Nirvana Energy.
Speaker A:And if you are an off grid type person then Adam has all the information you need for all your energy when you are off grid.
Speaker A:Also with us is Sean Lapointe from Mr.
Speaker A:Electric.
Speaker A:And if you're thinking of buying an EV car, then you need an EV charging station at your home.
Speaker A:And Sean will give us the scoop on what's involved and make your EV experience a great one.
Speaker A:All that and more on this week's edition of Boxcar Universe.
Speaker A:Your home for remodeling and renovating your world and contained a sustainable lifestyle living.
Speaker A:And I'd like to welcome all of our listeners to this week's very special show, the Electrify Expo here in beautiful Valley of the Sun.
Speaker A:Actually, we're going to be in Glendale, Arizona at the State Farm stadium this Saturday, April 12th and 13th and you're going to be able to see my two guests and myself there.
Speaker A:So I want everybody to come down and see us because if you want to see anything that you want to talk about, electric, ev, solar, all of that kind of good stuff, we want to be able to help you with that.
Speaker A:And it's going to be a great show.
Speaker A:And from what I hear the weather's going to be a little bit warmer than it is today and it's a little chilly today but it's going to be probably in the 90s next week and it's going to be really good.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But let me introduce our guest, Adam Johnson from Nirvana Energy and Sean Lapointe from Mr.
Speaker A:Electric.
Speaker A:And guys, welcome to the show.
Speaker A:Thanks for being on Boxcar Universe.
Speaker A:And this is, this is our Electrify Expo special.
Speaker A:How you guys doing?
Speaker C:Doing good.
Speaker C:Thanks for having me.
Speaker A:All right, great.
Speaker A:Great to have you here.
Speaker A:And let me start with Adam first, because Adam and I met actually last year.
Speaker A:Now, Adam, how time flies from Nirvana Energy and tell our listeners a little bit about your mission in life in creating specialized solar systems.
Speaker C:Yeah, so we kind of saw a loophole or a gap in the market of off grid.
Speaker C:There's, you know, the solar industry is very saturated and so we kind of found a niche doing off grid for people to have land and cabins.
Speaker C:And we partnered with some mini home manufacturers and shed manufacturers as well.
Speaker C:So we kind of got into that space and the technology has just been going crazy in the off grid.
Speaker C:And the battery market, it's just been, you know, jumped by a couple folds just in the last few years.
Speaker C:So we've kind of expanded into residential batteries and, and land development.
Speaker A:So have you found that a lot more people are.
Speaker A:Is that just in the Phoenix metro area or you find that.
Speaker A:I know, because you go all over the state.
Speaker A:Are you finding that everywhere?
Speaker C:Yeah, so we'll go anywhere in the state.
Speaker C:We're actually bidding some jobs, some bigger jobs in Utah and California, some land development jobs.
Speaker C:So we'll pretty much go anywhere that we're needed.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And it's funny how our businesses have taken a direction depending on where the need is and what we come across.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, God has our destinies mapped out and we all have our own individual niche.
Speaker A:And it's funny how you got to be able to find this niche because obviously with everybody talking about solar and power and everything else, it's, you know, it's not always just, you know, what you can bring from the utility to the house because some of these situations, especially some of these areas of, of people building, you know, complexes and communities and stuff like that.
Speaker A:A lot of times other than if there's a, if there's.
Speaker A:They bring a generator in, there's no other power there.
Speaker C:Yep, yep.
Speaker C:So we use new.
Speaker C:The newer technology is these hybrid inverters.
Speaker C:They have multiple ports of power so you can hook generators, you hook wind turbines to them.
Speaker C:If you do want to use utility power, you can use utility and sell back to the utility as well.
Speaker C:So it takes all the power you can do.
Speaker C:Batteries takes all the power, cleans it and sends to the home as needed.
Speaker C:And then you can also really tailor these.
Speaker C:The other niche of the market we're kind of going after is, is people that have pre existing solar.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:They already have solar.
Speaker C:Say the system's very old or it's just not producing enough.
Speaker C:We can go and add gateways and batteries to that, and then you can program it to offset your bill.
Speaker C:So say you sell back to the utility company, but they're paying 2 cents a kilowatt, which isn't much.
Speaker C:And then during peak hours of utility charge, usually from 4 to 7, they're charging you 4, 14 cents a kilowatt.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So it doesn't make sense to sell back much anymore.
Speaker C:So what we've done is we'll add batteries and a gateway to your system so you can add generators and program the system to discharge the batteries between 4 and 7 when you're getting charged 14 cents a kilowatt.
Speaker C:So it really helps people bring their bills down.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:You'll utilize the battery in case the grid goes down.
Speaker C:You actually have some stored power to keep that refrigerator going.
Speaker C:That's another big part of the market that people want.
Speaker C:That dependability of what if something does happen and grid does go down.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, that's so important, especially with people going with their desire to have casitas at different areas of maybe not their property, but maybe if they have a tiny home or something, then they go traveling throughout the country and they want to be able to have some.
Speaker A:Some power.
Speaker A:And maybe it's in a place that's.
Speaker A:When we say off grid, I mean off grid, like maybe out in the forest or maybe out in the desert, people wonder, well, why would you go out into the desert?
Speaker A:Believe me, when you.
Speaker A:You have to live in the Southwest to be able to appreciate especially living and going out in the desert.
Speaker A:I don't think.
Speaker A:I think some of the sunsets in the desert are probably some of the most beautiful in the country.
Speaker A:And when you want to just de stress, you go out and not have a care in the world.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's not always about ocean, but there is something to say about that because I know Sean appreciates that.
Speaker A:It's nothing like on the west coast, like Coronado, I'm telling you.
Speaker A:No, no, but anyway, but so this is obviously a mission that you've started and in the.
Speaker A:You actually have a niche market.
Speaker A:And tell us a little bit about, you know, our good friend Susan, the shed gal, and her particular situation that I had brought to you and how you solved her issues issue about having solar power on her shed lot here in the West Valley.
Speaker C:Yeah, so we used one of the newer hybrid inverters that came out.
Speaker C:It's actually EG4.
Speaker C:I got the hat I took from them, but.
Speaker C:And it has a wall mount battery and it's all one unit.
Speaker C:So she was in a situation where she needed a certain amount of power.
Speaker C:So we did a load calculation.
Speaker C:You figure out the size of the solar system you need and you usually add about the same for her in battery capacity.
Speaker C:And so it was a simple calculation, did the math, figured out what she needed and did the install.
Speaker C:So since it is a standalone grid, standalone system, you gotta drive ground rods, you gotta do all the, the safety stuff that the city would do on any other electrical system.
Speaker C:So, you know, we engineer all that in and yeah.
Speaker C:Go from there.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I know she's, she.
Speaker A:I was over there last Sunday and she.
Speaker A:I know I've.
Speaker A:Over the course of time since you've installed it.
Speaker A:I know she's been very happy with it.
Speaker A:And I had shared with her that we're going to be over at the Electrify Expo on the 12th and the 13th and she's like, I'm definitely going to come over and see you guys and tell all our friends and family.
Speaker A:And I think that's something if you are in that type of, we'll call it mode or thinking that I think to be able to come by and see about how could you make your home or your, your individual property more sustainable and, and not take away.
Speaker A:And from the, from the power that the utility company has to provide you, it's so much better.
Speaker A:I mean, the utility costs are just like going off the chart.
Speaker A:I hear reports every day of utility municipalities going, you know, raising their fees, going up and it's never gonna stop.
Speaker A:It's never gonna stop.
Speaker A:And the only way to stop it is for your particular situation is going solar, whether it be a full traditional home system or a specialized system like you do, Adam.
Speaker A:And let's put a stop to, you know, just throwing money into a black hole.
Speaker A:I mean, it, it gets to be a little ridiculous.
Speaker A:We spend enough money on everything else with the cost of living and everything that spend on food, you know, which has gone off the chart, you know, we'll say the last six months for sure.
Speaker A:A lot of people, they need to save every dime they can.
Speaker C:Yep, yep.
Speaker C:And it's the utility rates going up too.
Speaker C:They, I mean, they're not Going to stop.
Speaker C:They're going to keep going up unless something drastically changes.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And we have one customer that has 60 panels on his roof.
Speaker C:He has a 21 kilowatt system.
Speaker C:Huge system, just massive.
Speaker C:And he still was getting a bill of four to five hundred dollars a month on his utility bill.
Speaker C:So he was very upset about it.
Speaker C:So what we came and did was added a gateway and some batteries and then tailored it and programmed the inverter to use the battery power when he was using the power the most or during the peak hours.
Speaker C:So it brought his bill down drastically.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:He's not selling everything back.
Speaker C:He's using it as needed.
Speaker C:So the cool thing is these systems can really be tailored to fit your specific needs, really.
Speaker C:And yeah, so it was pretty cool to help him out.
Speaker A:Did you happen to find out from your inspection or from information from him why was he still getting charged so much from the utility company?
Speaker A:Was he using more power or was there some kind of fault in the system that he had originally?
Speaker C:So he was never home, never working from home.
Speaker C:He would get, you know, your normal 9 to 5 job.
Speaker C:So when he got home and turned everything on, it was during those peak hours when the sun was coming down, he didn't have much production.
Speaker C:So he was using a lot of his power at night.
Speaker C:And during the day he was selling all his power.
Speaker C:But you're selling it at 2 cents.
Speaker C:Soon as he gets home, he's getting charged 14 cents a kilowatt.
Speaker C:So all his production was being used during those high peak times.
Speaker C:So instead of selling back for 2 cents, we stored all his power.
Speaker C:And then when he got home, that's when the batteries would then be used.
Speaker C:Stored power.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's amazing how you have to have to figure all that out because they'll take whatever they can get, you know, because I got a couple of different people that have solar systems on the home where they're getting.
Speaker A:They're getting a bill.
Speaker A:And I know there's got to be something going on.
Speaker A:That's why, a reason I asked you.
Speaker A:Because he's getting a.
Speaker A:He's getting a bill from the utility company for like $250.
Speaker A:And it hasn't even really gotten hot here except for a couple days yet.
Speaker A:And it shouldn't be that way, even though he's got like a bunch of different things.
Speaker A:But, you know, they even did a panel upgrade.
Speaker A:So he's not.
Speaker A:It's not like he's drawing too much power.
Speaker A:He's got plenty of power coming in the house.
Speaker A:But somewhere along the line, that same situation might be something that might be a way to resolve his issue too.
Speaker A:So appreciate you sharing that with me.
Speaker A:I think that's important.
Speaker A:But again, you got to follow through.
Speaker A:I mean, just because you get, you get solar system, you've got to go back actually and, and keep an eye on it and, and watch it month to month to see, you know, how many kilowatt hours you're using, how much you're selling back to the company.
Speaker A:And is the grid fee that you're getting charged, is it, you know, what you had expected or is it, you know, if it's in the several hundred dollar range, then there's something definitely wrong.
Speaker A:No doubt.
Speaker C:Yeah, there definitely is.
Speaker C:And it's, and it can also be set up for people that have, excuse.
Speaker D:Me.
Speaker C:You know, the people that have medical equipment too, or we did a job for a guy that mother had some metal equipment.
Speaker C:And when solar, when the grid goes down, a lot of people don't know that you lose solar production.
Speaker C:It's a safety thing.
Speaker C:So the linemen are working on the lines.
Speaker C:They can't have all these homes back feeding power.
Speaker C:So it's a safety thing set up.
Speaker C:And if your grid goes down, you lose solar production.
Speaker C:A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker C:And a guy had, mother had medical equipment in there and she needed that backed up.
Speaker C:So we added batteries to the solar and then pulled off some critical load circuits that would never go down.
Speaker C:Doesn't matter if the grid goes down, it would be backed up and fed through, through that system.
Speaker C:So like I said, it can be tailored to fit anyone's needs and the technology is finally there.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker A:The technology is here.
Speaker A:And I think that's one of the things that some people that have a bad taste of solar in their mouth or have heard in the past when the technology wasn't as great or you had these solar companies going out, charging everything under the sun, you know, different rates and everything else.
Speaker A:And then people, a lot of people with that philosophy that, well, I don't like solar, look what happened to my friend.
Speaker A:It's because they weren't getting treated fairly.
Speaker A:You know, and that's one of the things that I always try and do with selling solar systems is that we figure out what your needs are, how much power you're going to need, design a system that's going to be actually rated over a little bit of what you need.
Speaker A:So this way you make up that payback to the utility company so that you don't, you know, you don't get charged an arm and a leg.
Speaker A:So actually we over build it a little bit and then everything should be fine.
Speaker A:And you shouldn't have that, shouldn't have an, you shouldn't, you know, several hundred dollars utility bill.
Speaker A:I mean that's just wrong.
Speaker C:Yeah, a lot of these older systems were sold as one size fits all and it's really not that at all.
Speaker A:Plus the panels have been, the panels have come along over the last several years and gotten more efficient.
Speaker A:So, and that's, and that's, I mean that's important too.
Speaker A:So people need to realize, and that's why I think education is so important.
Speaker A:I think that's why I'm looking forward to our expo, the Electrify Expo, because we're going to be able to do a lot of education that people are seriously interested in looking into solar for their, their house, their home, their casita, whatever it is.
Speaker A:And I think it's really, really important that we as, as professionals try and educate the population so that this way we keep moving forward with sustainable energy.
Speaker A:But we're going to take a short break.
Speaker A:When we come back, we're going to have more from Adam and Sean and we're going to be talking a little more about.
Speaker A:Adam's going to explain to everyone how, how his solar system actually works.
Speaker A:Because you know, you think about it if you, you know, like for instance, you know, you've got ac, DC current and what works and why doesn't this work and why can't I plug my car into this?
Speaker A:So we're going to answer all those questions when we come back from break.
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Speaker A:And for all our listeners here in the Valley of the sun or in the, I should say in the Maricopa county area, I think if you are interested in anything electric, solar, EV charging stations, things that are going to make you more lead a more sustainable lifestyle, then you need to come down and see Adam and Sean with me next this actually this Saturday, the 12th and the 13th at State Farm Stadium and we were going to be over there and make sure you come by and see us.
Speaker A:I would love to hear from all, from all our listeners because we've got a lot of great things planned to, to show you and share with you.
Speaker A:So if you are interested in finding out more about that for your home, make sure you come down and see us.
Speaker A:We are in the solar zone and I think that's, I think guys, I think we are in the solar sustainable zone.
Speaker A:Maybe we should call it the solar sustainable zone.
Speaker A:Everybody's system in their cars because that's what that's going to be important because more and more people are going and obviously getting different types of electric cars and again there's a need for EV charging stations.
Speaker A:But we're going to get into that here in a little bit with Sean.
Speaker A:But Adam, tell our listeners a little bit about, okay, who may not be familiar with how a solar system works works, whether it's your specialized, you know, ones that are custom ones or you know, or for a regular home.
Speaker C:Yeah, sure.
Speaker C:So there's what's called direct coupled systems, DC direct coupled.
Speaker C:Then there's AC coupled systems.
Speaker C:So the most efficient way is do, is do a direct coupled system.
Speaker C:There's less conversions from AC to DC and it's a little bit more efficient so how it works is you'll have the sun, the photons hit the, hit the solar panels, you know, excites the, the photons inside and creates a direct current electrical system.
Speaker C:So that direct current is then added into an inverter that it's either by microinverters or a whole home inverter.
Speaker C:This inverter then takes the dc, converts it to ac and then that'll feed the home.
Speaker C:So the home kind of pulls off the system, you know, as the power is needed.
Speaker C:So then there's the AC coupled systems, you know, which have the micro inverters that will then tie into some type of battery system to do some backup.
Speaker C:So and then there's the, this is all done with utility tie in.
Speaker C:And then the off grid systems, we do generators.
Speaker C:So we'll tie in a generator.
Speaker C:The inverter will tell the generator when to come on.
Speaker C:So if your battery is going to get too low, gets below 20%, the inverter will say, hey, we're about to die, kick on the generator.
Speaker C:Generator will then power the home and will charge the batteries at the same time.
Speaker C:So all this has to be engineered out and specked out to handle the total consumption of load or your system won't work properly.
Speaker C:So it's very important to get your load calculations down correctly and design the system correctly.
Speaker A:Yeah, it has to work obviously properly because you don't want to have any mishaps, you know, or actually besides the mishaps.
Speaker A:Have a system on your home that you paid a lot of money for and it doesn't work properly.
Speaker A:So that's right, it's got to be engineered.
Speaker A:Now do you need, when you do a system for a particular home or off grid situation, do you have engineered stamps for those systems?
Speaker A:Is that something?
Speaker C:Yeah, so we have a third party.
Speaker C:Generally to get permits you have to have an engineered stamp, usually just a one line drawing.
Speaker C:It all depends on municipalities.
Speaker C:Some people want more.
Speaker C:But yes, we have a third party company that does all that for us.
Speaker A:You know, and, but yeah, because that's, I know that's pretty much the same.
Speaker A:You know, when we do, people ask me, well, you know, who does the inspection checks on when container homes are built?
Speaker A:Well, to be able to build a container home you need the same thing.
Speaker A:You need an engineered spec drawings because.
Speaker A:Especially for framing.
Speaker A:Because when you start cutting up a container and making windows and doors and everything else, you know, people have the wrong conception.
Speaker A:They think, well, it's steel, isn't it strong enough?
Speaker A:Well, no, not necessarily.
Speaker A:It's not, you know, the.
Speaker A:It has to be some kind of building code that requires to have an engineered stamp to make sure that it's safe and engineered, right?
Speaker A:Not if it didn't.
Speaker A:Then anybody could slap a container home together or a solar system and call it good.
Speaker A:And then when something goes bad, you know, you know, like our good friend Dan Hayden from DEC inspection says, you know, those people do that shabby kind of work.
Speaker A:They have the taillight warranty.
Speaker A:When the tail, when the taillights are gone, the warranty's gone.
Speaker A:Yep, that's exactly right.
Speaker C:Yeah, we get, we get a lot of calls.
Speaker C:A lot of these companies have gone out of business, these fly by night companies.
Speaker C:So there's, I mean, even Titan, Titan wasn't really a fly by night, but they have 200,000 customers and they went out of business.
Speaker C:So you got a lot of people that are left up in the air of now what.
Speaker C:You know what I mean?
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker C:You want to choose the right company when doing this stuff.
Speaker A:How do you deal with something like that, with people?
Speaker A:And they say, well, the company went out of business and they need help because a lot of companies won't, won't touch somebody else's work.
Speaker C:So we'll do a warrant, like a inspection type warranty.
Speaker C:We'll come in and I'll do a full inspection on this system.
Speaker C:And then we have like yearly, yearly warranties where we'll come do quarterly inspections.
Speaker C:And if there's deemed panel as bad, like we have a customer that's on the golf course and keeps getting broken panels.
Speaker C:So we'll come out for a set fixed price for the year.
Speaker C:You can hire us and we'll come do quarterly inspections and clean the panels and replace them if needed to be replaced.
Speaker A:So at least they have a resource to go to.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, because a lot of people, they get left high and dry.
Speaker A:I know actually a roofing company I spoke to the other day and they said, well, yeah, I mean, I get requests for solar, but you know, I also get a lot of requests for people that have panels that need them removed so that we could do a new roof and then put that back on.
Speaker A:Is that something that you partake in or is that just out of your wheelhouse?
Speaker C:No, we can do that too.
Speaker C:We work directly with another, another electrical company that has done millions of panels taken off, you know, and put on.
Speaker C:Maybe millions is a little exaggerated, but he, he's been doing strictly just that that's what he does.
Speaker A:That's all he does.
Speaker C:So, yeah, we can definitely get the right people to do that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:All right, well, that's good.
Speaker A:I will definitely make sure that I pass along your number and name to them because that's one of the things that I think he's probably losing roof work because he, he's forcing the homeowner to go out and find somebody to, you know, remove the panels.
Speaker A:And it just makes for much better customer service.
Speaker A:If we can go in there and, and say, yes, we know somebody who can handle this for you, we'll work with them.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:And more importantly, we've worked with them in the past.
Speaker A:So this way they have a degree of confidence in what you're telling them.
Speaker A:So I think that's.
Speaker A:I think that's so very important, especially when somebody has gotten a bad taste in their mouth and they feel like they've hung out, been hung out to dry.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Yeah, I was.
Speaker C:My business partner has been trying to get me to get into this industry for a long time, and I've always thought it as kind of a scam, and the technology was just.
Speaker C:Wasn't there.
Speaker C:And in the last few years, it's really stepped up and there's a lot of people that need help with their old systems and being educated on what's actually going on with the new technology.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's so important.
Speaker A:It's great to have a professional like you to be able to go back and educate them, to let them know that there is somebody out here that can help.
Speaker A:And again, that they're not just hung out to dry with their system on their house, because when they've spent thousands of dollars on that system on their home, they basically expect, you know, some kind of warranty.
Speaker A:And that's why, again, like you had said, it's good to find a company, a reputable company that is that to buy from.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And that's so very important.
Speaker A:But we're going to take a short break, and when we come back, we're going to be talking with Sean Lapointe from Mr.
Speaker A:Electric and all the things that you need to know about putting together a plan to have an EV charging station at your home.
Speaker A:This way you don't have to go out and park in that parking lot at Walmart and plug your car in.
Speaker A:You could plug your car in at night.
Speaker A:But we're going to have all those answers to all your EV questions when we come back.
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Speaker A:This is the Electrify Expo special and for those of you who maybe didn't catch it earlier.
Speaker A:I guess you can call us guys, can we call us the Three Musketeers?
Speaker A:What do you think?
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Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker A:Remember, you know, like Sean always says, Sean's memory hook is, you know, we have the power to make things happen and yes, he does.
Speaker A:But before we get started talking with Sean and some of the EV power stations for your home, I just want to touch base with Adam.
Speaker A:One more.
Speaker A:Adam, before we move on to that, give our listeners a little bit idea how they can contact you other than seeing you on the 12th and the 13th.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So if you go to our website, nirvanargy.net you can check out, there's some video that kind of explains how batteries work and how solar system work and, and how to calculate what you need.
Speaker C:There's also a calculator on there so you can go on and say, I want to back up these appliances in this system.
Speaker C:And then we can give you a quote depending on what you picked and what you want back up so we can kind of size your system and send a quote from there.
Speaker C:So.
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Speaker A:Thanks so much.
Speaker A:And we're going to look forward to having a great show and meet a lot of, a lot of people out at the State Farm Stadium at the Electrify Expo.
Speaker A:And I'm sure there's going to be a lot of listeners of Boxcar Universe out there, so make sure you come out and see us.
Speaker C:I'm looking forward to being out there with you guys.
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Speaker D:Thanks, Adam.
Speaker D:Thank you.
Speaker A:All right, Sean, let's talk.
Speaker A:And for those of you who again joined us, late Shawn Lapointe from Mr.
Speaker A:Electric Phoenix is here with us and we're going to be talking about EV charging stations, which.
Speaker A:Sean, when you, when did that.
Speaker A:People putting EV charging stations in their homes, when did that actually start to be to begin?
Speaker A:Do you remember?
Speaker D:Well, it was right around the time that they started selling electric vehicles, Steve.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I kind of thought that was it, but you know, depending on what year I was looking for the, for the year, but I guess.
Speaker D:Oh, goodness, okay.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker D:I was about to joke out of that.
Speaker A:I guess we'll have to.
Speaker A:I know you were.
Speaker A:I guess we'll have to figure that out and, and see, obviously the, that was one of the things that, and.
Speaker D:When it really started getting prevalent was when, you know, electric vehicles were kind of on the horizon and, and they were kind of a, you know, thing that, that was, you know, a top of mind for the future.
Speaker D:Well, now the future's here.
Speaker D:You know, gosh, like, you know, I bought one of the first model Threes when Tesla started putting out vehicles and they came out with that, you know, that roadster and it was like, wow, look at this.
Speaker D:This thing's amazing.
Speaker D:I didn't think everybody was going to, you know, they're just a supercar and the next thing, you know, releases this, you know, $40,000 sedan that's electric.
Speaker D:And I happen to, you know, be on the waiting list for one of the first ones.
Speaker D:And you know, coming from driving a Silverado, you know, I'm a truck guy and moving into a Tesla 3, everybody's like, why, are you nuts?
Speaker D:Like you're doing some kind of, you know, shipping, you know, I haven't looked back, Steve.
Speaker D:I absolutely love this car.
Speaker D:It's been incredibly reliable.
Speaker D:And you know, there might be a couple of drawbacks to being electric.
Speaker D:Like you can't just go fill it up anymore.
Speaker D:But with the advent of charging stations, you know, superchargers and quick chargers and, and big D.C.
Speaker D:chargers, it's, you know, it's actually, you know, you know, I think one of the, one of the great ways to go and you know, it's, it's not going anywhere.
Speaker D:You know, a lot of, even at the bigger side, like fleets, you know, the SRP right now is running huge incentives to convert your fleet to electric.
Speaker D:And you know, that's a, that's a big deal.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker A:And I remember last year when we covered the Electrify Expo on Boxcar Universe.
Speaker A:It was the first time I had driven a Tesla, which was, I have to say, you know, I am sure, like you was first time driving.
Speaker A:It was a unique experience in what is it?
Speaker A:Something, something stupid like 0 to 60 in 1.7 seconds or something like that.
Speaker A:I mean, it's incredible.
Speaker A:Acceleration is incredible.
Speaker D:That feeling does not get old.
Speaker A:No, I don't think it does.
Speaker A:It feels like you're out of the drag strip every day.
Speaker A:No, but it's, it's a unique feeling.
Speaker A:Again, I think the quietness of the car itself was, is, is different.
Speaker A:The one thing that I took away from my test drive, besides all the different unique experiences, I mean it handles just like a regular, we'll say a gasoline driven car, except that the regenerative braking, which was a unique experience.
Speaker A:Well, me being having a lot of over the road experience with driving 18 wheelers you know, and experiencing.
Speaker A:Doing engine braking, which is exactly what a regenerative braking system in a Tesla or electric car is like, because it's.
Speaker A:When happens, you could literally feel the car lurch a little forward, but slowing down kind of lurch.
Speaker A:And it helps, it helps with you stopping.
Speaker A:So I, I think that's a unique aspect of, of having that, but the.
Speaker D:The powering of it about that is, is that there's actually a setting like, because if your battery's fully charged, you won't get that regenerative, you know, braking if it's something that you're used to.
Speaker D:And so you can actually tell your car to kind of falsify the feeling of regenerative braking by applying the brakes when you take your foot off the gas.
Speaker D:So you get used to that, you know, you get used to that aspect of, you know, basically driving with one foot, right?
Speaker D:You can drive, hey, and just use your, use your foot to go either fast or slow.
Speaker D:And, and so now even with the, you know, with the full battery, when you don't need the regenerative braking, the car will still act like it's regenerative braking.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Technology was such a wonderful thing.
Speaker A:But tell our listeners a little bit about, okay, so what types of chargers are usually that you've installed for Mr.
Speaker A:Electric are people looking for?
Speaker A:Are they looking for.
Speaker A:And how long do they need to charge their car?
Speaker A:Because every, you know, you hear about, like you said, fast chargers, you go to, like, Walmart parking lot, and they've got a whole bank of ones there.
Speaker A:I don't need.
Speaker A:What do they.
Speaker A:And what do they actually charge for that?
Speaker A:How do they charge by the hour?
Speaker D:So it's interesting you said, let's talk about the types first.
Speaker D:So when we first came out, you had really small battery capacities.
Speaker D:Maybe you can maybe get like maybe 50 or 60 miles on a charge.
Speaker D:So with that being said, there were 120 volt chargers.
Speaker D:You basically just plug it into a wall outlet and it would take up to 12amps or something like that.
Speaker D:And if you only needed to go 50 miles, you could get that in a few hours or four hours or whatever.
Speaker D:And that works great.
Speaker D:But then everybody's, you know, starts saying, hey, you know what we want?
Speaker D:We want to get more, you know, we need more mileage, we need more, more range capacity and also power.
Speaker D:The 110, what's called level one charger, level one chargers, at this point, they just weren't cutting it.
Speaker D:And so the, the car that I have, I believe it has A gosh, I didn't even look to see what this was, was somewhere in lines of a, it gets a 300 mile range.
Speaker D:So if I just use level one charger, it would actually take me maybe two or three days to get that battery charged, you know, to, to a full charge.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker D:The.
Speaker D:So with that being said, well, now we got to make a charger that uses more energy.
Speaker D:And so we go into 240 volt charging.
Speaker D:This could be 240 volts at 20amps, 30amps, 40amps, 50amps.
Speaker D:And now it's going all the way up to, you know, 80 or 90 or 100amps at the Level 2 stage.
Speaker D:And so this allows me like my chart, my car, I can, I actually have a level 2 charger, but I didn't have a lot of capacity in my panel.
Speaker D:And remember this because we need to talk about this later.
Speaker D:So, so the capacity that I had only allowed about 20amps, but it's at 240 volts.
Speaker D:So I could like to charge that about five times quicker than a level one charger.
Speaker D:And so I can actually, if I come home and I've only got 20 or 30 miles left on a charge, I can plug it in at 5:00, 6:00am, I'll get back in the car.
Speaker D:And I've got 80% charge in the vehicle and it works great for me.
Speaker D:And I also have one of these same charges at my business too.
Speaker D:And so for a while, and actually this is still going on, srp, by the way, is still giving rebates for business located vehicle charging systems.
Speaker D:And we're talking about businesses and multifamily and schools.
Speaker D:They're paying a lot of money to incentivize getting this infrastructure in place.
Speaker D:All right, so let's say you.
Speaker D:Oh my God, I forgot to charge and I'm down to nothing and I got to get to work.
Speaker D:Now this was an issue before where there wasn't a whole lot of opportunities or a whole lot of options.
Speaker D:Now you see these everywhere.
Speaker D:You were just talking on break about how you were at Carrabba's or you were at a Walmart and in the parking lot there was 15 supercharging stations.
Speaker D:And these are great, these run off of D.C.
Speaker D:and they take an enormous amount of power.
Speaker D:And in the kilowatt ratings it could be sometimes 240 kilowatt charging your car.
Speaker D:And that's enough to run your neighborhood for about an hour or two and charges your car.
Speaker D:You can get, you can get 250 miles in 35 minutes or less.
Speaker D:It's a lot of, lot of power going on there.
Speaker A:That's amazing.
Speaker A:Is there a, like, for instance, like you had mentioned earlier about people wanting to drive their cars farther now under normal circumstances with a gas powered vehicle, I mean, we all know basically depending on how far we're going, where, where there are gas stations.
Speaker A:Okay, if you're going to travel across the country, is there some directory for people that have EV cars where there are charging stations along the way?
Speaker A:Let's use for instance, going to Coronado.
Speaker D:So great point.
Speaker D:So usually that is built into the car so I can actually type in my destination.
Speaker D:It'll show me a map, it'll show how much charge we need to get there.
Speaker D:It's going to show where the chargers are on that route and it'll say what's the best place for it to, you know, for it to go.
Speaker D:There is a little, you have to do a little thinking on this because there is a couple of drawbacks to electric vehicle is that everything in the car runs off of electricity.
Speaker D:So whereas in a regular car when you run the air conditioner, that air conditioner is just running off the motor.
Speaker D:And you know, when you run a blower or a heater, sometimes that's just most of the times running off the, off the motor also.
Speaker D:But in an electric vehicle, everything's electric.
Speaker D:And so if you're driving at 65 miles an hour, you're going to get much better range or kilowatts per, you know, per mile than you are if you're going 85.
Speaker D:It's a huge difference.
Speaker D:The wind drag is enormous.
Speaker D:If you have your windows down.
Speaker D:Oh, this creates a little bit more drag.
Speaker D:Now your capacity is even less.
Speaker D:Let's turn on the air conditioner.
Speaker D:Now the air conditioner has to use the electric in the vehicle to run.
Speaker D:Now your range is even less.
Speaker D:Let's add hills to that.
Speaker D:Going up and down hills is an enormous load on that system as well.
Speaker D:And so you could start out a trip and saying, hey, I got enough to get to Yuma and I'm going to charge in Yuma.
Speaker D:But I decided to go 95 miles an hour and I took the scenic trip and I did some up and down hills and I got the AC cranes and you can potentially not have enough charge to get there.
Speaker D:So be a little observant.
Speaker D:And so you have to be a little, do a little research on that like first timers.
Speaker D:You know, I get, I get what you call caught with your pants.
Speaker D:Now oh, man, I caught my pants.
Speaker A:Now I gotta find some place to show.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:And then I've been driving them for years and every so often I'm just not paying attention.
Speaker D:Like, oh, you know, and it'll tell you say, you know what you got, you got about seven miles before you got to charge.
Speaker D:Here's the closest charger.
Speaker D:Let's get there and get it done.
Speaker A:So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, the charging station's 10 miles away, but I only have 7 miles of power left.
Speaker A:What do we do then?
Speaker A:Push.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:That's, that's, it's amazing.
Speaker A:But yeah, because I, you know, well, I always wondered about that because, you know, they have to.
Speaker A:People need to know, like, if they're going somewhere.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:Where do I stop in charge?
Speaker A:And then thinking about that, what's the cost in charging at a station like that?
Speaker A:So you have to pay for it.
Speaker D:Buying the charge.
Speaker D:Because technically I'm not allowed as a third party to resell SRP's power.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker D:So we just have to come up with an arbitrary thing saying, hey, you know what it's going to be for every kilowatt hour of charge, it's going to be 10 cents or 12 cents or 20 cents.
Speaker D:I'm paying SRP for the power.
Speaker D:Then, you know, I'm selling it at some other, you know, price point to the customer.
Speaker D:It can vary.
Speaker D:As an example, if I use a supercharger and I put 200 miles of charge on my car, that charge to me is about maybe 13 bucks, 15 bucks.
Speaker D:It's not too bad when you Compare it to 200 miles in a gasoline vehicle, where if you got to fill up a 20 gallon tank, you know, that's, you know, could be 100 or 200 bucks, depending on where you go.
Speaker A:Yeah, that, that could be very.
Speaker A:That could be very expensive.
Speaker A:Like you say from gas versus electric.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So, you know, an electric vehicle may not be for everybody, but, you know, I think for what I use it for and for a lot of people use it for, it's.
Speaker D:It works very well and very appreciative.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then how much maintenance does an EV charger need once it's installed?
Speaker D:Are you talking about the charger or the car?
Speaker A:The charger.
Speaker D:Now the charger.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:EV charger.
Speaker D:It's great.
Speaker D:Definitely on the DC side when you're doing fast chargers, you know, that's a very, very large service that's come straight from the power company to feed these things.
Speaker D:They're going to, you know, that service is going to need some maintenance because of the high current involved.
Speaker D:There's lots of little microelectronics and controllers and stuff inside those D.C.
Speaker D:chargers.
Speaker D:We're talking cooling fans.
Speaker D:And I've actually been hired by a couple of companies to perform this kind of maintenance.
Speaker D:And, and they're very, very strict, they're very systematic, you know, point A to B to C to D to check this and this and make sure this and, and there's definitely some behind the scenes work going on to keep those things running.
Speaker D:And there's something inside of that has a failure.
Speaker D:Something in that charger can't be used until it's repairable.
Speaker D:And of course it's a source of revenue for whoever owns it.
Speaker D:And so they're definitely, hey, let's go out there and let's get this thing back up and running.
Speaker D:The normal charger that you would see in a house that's typical for most people is a level 2 charger, anywhere from 20 to 80amps.
Speaker D:And what we find is that internally there really isn't much for the customer to mess with.
Speaker D:There's no moving parts inside of customer's going to be able to take on themselves if there's something wrong with it and it's a failure of a part part.
Speaker D:Whoever sold the charger, whoever, you know, like if we sell a charger to somebody, we got to warranty it and so you might be on us to go in and you know, it might be, you know, a couple of different brands that we, you know, that we happily provide.
Speaker D:And same with Tesla, they have their own, you know, certified personnel that come out and work on these things.
Speaker D:So from a maintenance standpoint, there really isn't much the customer to do.
Speaker D:However, it still takes power and so there's going to be power connection points.
Speaker D:So there's going to be a dedicated circuit in your panel.
Speaker D:It's definitely going to be using a lot of power.
Speaker D:And maybe a bi, yearly or yearly inspection on that electrical system is definitely in order to make sure that that thing's not going to, you know, get a loose connection or you know, cause a hotspot somewhere.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean that's important.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Thinking about maintenance on it, is there any difference when you install an EV charger at someone's home if they have solar power?
Speaker A:Let me rephrase that.
Speaker A:Does a solar powered home make any difference when you install an EV charging station?
Speaker D:Interestingly, the way the solar system works and when we're talking even with the battery system is that it offsets what's being drawn from the utility.
Speaker D:And so no matter what you have on that electrical system, the solar system is only going to be able to supply X amount of power to offset what's being asked for by the power company.
Speaker D:So that's the advantage of solar is that, is that you're offsetting the usage that you're paying for from the utility.
Speaker A:So it trades off pretty much the same way with or without any, you know, depending on the load.
Speaker D:From our standpoint that, you know, really the.
Speaker D:We have other concerns and, and the gentleman from.
Speaker D:Was it nirvana that was coming?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Adam.
Speaker A:Adam?
Speaker D:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker D:So he was talking about low calcs to make sure you have the right size equipment for, you know, what's being drawn.
Speaker D:We definitely have to do the exact same thing.
Speaker D:When that charger is going to draw X amount of power and combined with whatever else is in this person's home, we definitely need to do a load calc to make sure that we're not going to exceed the capacity of what the customer has.
Speaker D:Available.
Speaker D:Available.
Speaker D:This happens quite a bit.
Speaker D:A customer will say, I want to put this gigantic charger on.
Speaker D:And we go in There, it's a 200amp service and they have three air conditioners and a whole lot going on and, and welders and, and unfortunately we have to have a difficult conversation that says, you know, what, you know, this particular one that you want to put on here, you know, it's not going to fit from an electrical calculation standpoint.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:There's ways to work around this.
Speaker D:And this is, this is something I want to talk about earlier that we alluded to is that there's now load shedding capabilities built into some of the charging stations that says if the service is being overloaded, we're going to shut that charger off until such a point where we're able to use it again.
Speaker D:And so it's one of the nice things.
Speaker D:So instead of having to upgrade a customer's entire panel from say 200amps to 400amps, we can, you know, we find a solution that's going to be a, you know, more cost effective and allows that customer to use more power for less output or for less size of service.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But sometimes, depending on what, what the homeowner has, and maybe if it's an older home and they want to do something like that, a panel upgrade probably would be in order.
Speaker D:You know, we're not just going to come in and say you need a panel upgrade unless you actually need one.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:But we definitely assess that as part of our, as part of our visit.
Speaker A:And I think that's again, we talk about a lot of that all the time throughout the year, talking about coming down, getting an inspection and an assessment of how much power you're using versus what you're paying for a land.
Speaker A:And it's not just like one particular thing that you need to do.
Speaker A:It has taken overall picture of everything usage, what you're paying for it.
Speaker A:If you are, if you do have a solar system on the house, you know what your, what your installment payment is for the system, if you do decide to purchase one and take your utility payment and put it towards your installment payment.
Speaker A:But that's something that really, like you said, needs to be done by a professional.
Speaker A:And then also taking into effect if you do a solar system on your house, taking effect of how old your roof is.
Speaker A:So there's a lot of moving parts in all of this.
Speaker A:But I think in the long run, you know, an EV charging station, if you do own a home is probably a good bet.
Speaker D:Yeah, I mean if you, you know, we do see some people that are forced to go outboard and they don't, they don't have the ability to charge at their home.
Speaker D:We've seen this and it's incredibly inconvenient.
Speaker D:You know, a couple, Steve got a, you know, you were talking about, you know, having the professional, you know, make sure they're, they're doing the right thing behind the homeowner.
Speaker D:We've actually had instances where we came into the homeowner and said, you know, hey, we've done this load calculation and you know, if you want to put this charger in, we're definitely going to have to upgrade the service because it's not up to capacity.
Speaker D:And we've actually seen cases where the customer said, you know what, okay, thanks, I'm just gonna get a second opinion.
Speaker D:And they get a guy come in and they didn't even bother do a local.
Speaker D:Oh yeah, I can put this in for blah, blah, blah, let's do it today right now.
Speaker D:They don't even bother doing the locale, can they?
Speaker D:You know, unfortunately, you know, the so called professional doesn't understand, you know, you know, what's required to make sure the customer's safe.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, I mean, you know, when we build up, when we build a home or remodel a home sometimes I mean, you've got to do, you've got to take all that in to consideration.
Speaker A:You got to do load calcs especially, you know, putting a, in, you know, H VAC units.
Speaker A:We're actually going to be doing a remodel up in Scottsdale and we're going from two units to three units because the house is going to be so big and we're going to segment it out.
Speaker A:So this way the, the cooling is more balanced and it's not more stress on one unit than the other.
Speaker A:But we have to do counts.
Speaker A:There's no other way around it.
Speaker D:Yep, absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's so important.
Speaker A:But Sean, how can our listeners contact you other than seeing you at the Expo?
Speaker D:You know, Mr.
Speaker D:Electric is pretty accessible.
Speaker D:You can always search Mr.
Speaker D:Electric online and you're definitely going to find us because we're the only one in town.
Speaker A:Well, that's always good.
Speaker D:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker D:So you can also find us on social media.
Speaker D:And again, you know, we, oh Steve, we found a couple of imposters.
Speaker D:We found a couple of companies that are using the name Mr.
Speaker D:Electric because they know that, that people like us and love us and want to use us and they're trying to capitalize on our name to fulfill their business requirements.
Speaker D:What do you think of that?
Speaker A:I think that's pretty crappy to be honest with you.
Speaker A:Pretty shady.
Speaker A:And there I have a couple of other names that I would say, but not on the podcast.
Speaker A:But no, that is terrible.
Speaker A:Why, you know, but again, you know, a business identity theft, it, it is.
Speaker D:Really, it's a, it's a drag.
Speaker D:The especially like if you, so if you search Mr.
Speaker D:Electric on Google you might see a couple of imposters.
Speaker D:So make sure when you search in verse like you want Mr.
Speaker D:Electric of Phoenix Metro.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:And also I got an announcement for you too, very, very quickly.
Speaker D:When you search for Electricians in the East Valley, you're now going to be able to come across Mr.
Speaker D:Electric of Mesa, Gilbert and Chandler.
Speaker D:And we got the space already lined up and you're going to see that dot on the map here really soon.
Speaker A:So that's coming, that's, that's coming soon then you heard it first here from Sean.
Speaker A:Okay, that's really good.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:It's called, it's called expanding.
Speaker A:Expanding their, your footprint.
Speaker D:It is.
Speaker A:And obviously you've got to be doing something right and homeowners appreciate all the good work that you do and the follow up and everything else.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker D:Yeah, we're really, we're really proud, we're proud of our customer response.
Speaker D:We have just on Google home we have over a thousand five star reviews.
Speaker A:That's really good.
Speaker A:Okay, that's Mr.
Speaker A:Electric of Phoenix Metro.
Speaker A:Make sure you only.
Speaker A:Only search for that.
Speaker D:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Sean, thanks so much for being here today.
Speaker A:We really appreciate it.
Speaker A:And again, like I said, Sean's going to be with us, Mr.
Speaker A:Electric, out at the Electrify Expo held at State Farm Stadium on April 12th and 13th.
Speaker A:The show hours are 9 to 5 both days, Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker A:So make sure you make plans to come out.
Speaker A:There's going to be a lot of things to do out there besides seeing, you know, our three faces out there, you could see a lot of different things.
Speaker A:You know, electric bikes, Teslas, other electric vehicles.
Speaker A:You're going to be able to do test rides in them.
Speaker A:Motorcycles, scooters.
Speaker A:I think I even saw electric go karts there last year.
Speaker A:I remember they had.
Speaker A:And then one of the things that I loved out there, which is really good, it's the old trucker in me, an electric tractor for 18 wheelers, which was just simply amazing.
Speaker A:I mean, I just wanted to drive it off the parking lot, but they wouldn't let me.
Speaker A:I said, I want to do a test drive, but they said no, sorry.
Speaker A:But anyway, all right.
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Speaker A:We'll see you at the Electrify Expo this weekend.
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