Episode 119
Monsoon Storms and Your Roof: Essential Insights for Homeowners
The salient point of this podcast episode centers on the imperative of ensuring the integrity of one's roof, particularly in light of the impending monsoon season which poses significant risks to residential structures. As we explore the evolution of shelter from primitive constructions to contemporary container homes, we emphasize the growing necessity for sustainable living practices amid the current environmental challenges. Our esteemed guest, Scott Lewis from American Roofing and Waterproofing, elucidates various roofing types, including tile and shingle, and the critical maintenance required to safeguard homes against potential damage. Throughout our discourse, we highlight the importance of regular inspections and proactive measures to prevent costly repairs resulting from neglect. This episode serves as an essential guide for homeowners seeking to protect their investments and ensure a secure living environment.
The podcast delves into the evolution of human shelter, tracing its journey from primitive bamboo huts to contemporary concrete towers, underscoring mankind's perpetual quest for protection against the elements. Within this context, the discussion transitions to the pressing issue of sustainability, particularly in the realm of architecture. The hosts engage the audience with a provocative inquiry, challenging them to consider their readiness to adopt a more sustainable lifestyle. This sets the stage for an exploration of Container Home Living, a novel and eco-friendly housing solution that aligns with modern environmental sensibilities. The episode is anchored by Steve Deubel, a seasoned contractor and radio & TV personality, whose expertise lends credibility to the discourse, as he introduces his guest, Scott Lewis from American Roofing and Waterproofing. The conversation seamlessly shifts to the practical concerns of roofing, especially in the face of severe weather phenomena such as Arizona's monsoon storms. Dubell and Lewis discuss the critical importance of maintaining one's roof, particularly during the summer months when monsoon storms are prevalent. They highlight the various types of roofing available, including tile, shingle, and polyurethane foam systems, emphasizing the need for regular inspections and maintenance to prevent catastrophic failures. Through this dialogue, listeners gain valuable insights into the significance of proactive home care, underscoring the necessity of understanding the vulnerabilities of their roofs against nature's fury. Overall, the episode serves as a clarion call for homeowners to prioritize their living environments, advocating for a proactive approach to home maintenance that ensures safety and sustainability.
Takeaways:
- Throughout history, humanity has continuously sought innovative methods to protect themselves from environmental elements.
- The evolution of shelters has transitioned dramatically, from primitive structures to modern concrete edifices.
- The urgency for sustainable living practices has intensified in recent years, reflecting a global concern for environmental preservation.
- Understanding the importance of roof maintenance is essential, especially in regions prone to severe weather conditions.
- Container homes offer a unique and sustainable living solution that aligns with contemporary environmental values.
- A thorough inspection of roofing systems, particularly after severe storms, is crucial to prevent costly damages and ensure longevity.
Links referenced in this episode:
- idealhomeimimprovementaz.com
- stardustbuilding.org
- iFoam.com
- americanroofingnow.com
- boxcaruniverse.com
- mrelectric.com/phoenix-metro
Companies mentioned in this episode:
- American Roofing and Waterproofing
- Ideal Home Improvement
- Legacy Custom Homes AZ
- I Foam
- Stardust Building Supplies
- Boxcar Universe
- Mr. Electric of Phoenix-Metro
Transcript
Since the dawn of time, mankind has searched for ways to shelter themselves from the elements.
Speaker A:Over the centuries, these shelters have evolved from bamboo huts to concrete towers.
Speaker A:The last few years, there's been a push to save the planet.
Speaker A:Are you ready to embark on a more sustainable lifestyle?
Speaker B:Look no further.
Speaker A:You're about to enter the adventures of Container Home Living.
Speaker A:And now, contractor, radio and TV personality and your host for Boxcar Universe, Steve Dubel.
Speaker C:Hi, I'm Steve Dubell, host of Boxcar Universe.
Speaker C:And here's what's coming up on this week's edition of Boxcar Universe.
Speaker C:Scott Lewis from American Roofing and Waterproofing is here with us.
Speaker C:And if you know now, during the summertime, especially in the Arizona market in Southwest, we are besieged by what they call monsoon storms.
Speaker C:And a lot of our listeners across the airways, across the country.
Speaker C:You're going to say monsoon storms in Arizona.
Speaker C:Yes, and it's not AI generated, trust me, I know.
Speaker C:I've seen a lot of those, those fake AI generated disaster reels on the Internet.
Speaker C:No, this is something that's actually happens.
Speaker C:The designated dates that we have monsoon storms here in the Valley are June 15 to September 15.
Speaker C:Now don't hold me to those days because sometimes, you know, Mother Nature decides to go a little crazy and off the wall.
Speaker C:But a lot of strange things happen during that time.
Speaker C:And the one thing that obviously protects your house and is, is your roof.
Speaker C:Whether you have shingle, roof, tile roof, a lot of those different things are happening.
Speaker C:But your roof actually seals and keeps your home safe, keeps all your stuff safe, like my friend George Carlin used to say.
Speaker C:So you want to make sure that your roof is important and it is taken care of and is checked manually.
Speaker C:So we're going to get into all that stuff.
Speaker C:When it comes to roofing, whether it's on a container home or a traditional home or an adu, we've got all that information right here for you today.
Speaker C:All that and more on Boxcar Universe.
Speaker C:Remember, we are your renovating source for container living and sustainable lifestyle living and want to welcome all of you to Boxcar Universe.
Speaker C:This week we've got a great, great show planned for you.
Speaker C:Here we are at the end of July and beginning of August and as I said, we're in the middle of monsoon season.
Speaker C:Haven't seen much yet, yet, but you know, we've got another month and a half or so to go and a lot of strange things can happen in August, especially in early September.
Speaker C:So we're gonna, we're gonna make sure that we get you all up to speed on your roof, whether you're in the Southwest, Midwest, east coast.
Speaker C:You know, east coast people, especially down in Florida, which we're going to be seeing a little bit of that real soon myself, but where there are a lot of hurricanes that come in and you know, that's those hurricanes are going to come at us real fast and furious real soon on the East Coast.
Speaker C:So it creates havoc in the roof area as well as we're going to get into a little bit talking about the insurance industry and what their involvement is, especially in certain types of disasters that happen.
Speaker C:But we want to get right into it.
Speaker C:So I want to bring into the conversation and welcome Scott Lewis from from American Roofing and Waterproofing.
Speaker C:And Scott, thanks for being on Boxcar Universe today.
Speaker B:Thank you, Steve.
Speaker B:I'm happy to be here.
Speaker C:Great to have you on board.
Speaker C:And obviously, you know, as a good friend of mine used to say, you know, your roof starts at the top and that's what, as I said, protects your home and the things that you have in it.
Speaker C:And with a shabby roof, you're going to have some disasters and you're going to have some damage in the case of a some of these monsoon storms or any kind of severe rainstorm really.
Speaker C:But tell our listeners a little bit about you, your background and American roof roofing and waterproofing.
Speaker B:Well, my personal background, my father was a builder.
Speaker B:He was mostly a framing contractor, framed pretty much anything, custom homes, motels, apartment complexes, did his own spec homes.
Speaker B:And so I grew up working with him, eventually moved out to San Diego.
Speaker B:He was out in the northwest Arkansas region for his business in my 20s and worked with commercial companies, did high end custom homes, framing carpentry, specialty carpentry.
Speaker B:You know, some people will say trim carpentry when it comes to the finished carpentry.
Speaker B:But once you get into those high end custom homes, there's all kinds of cool projects to do that are kind of outside of the normal trim carpentry realm.
Speaker B:I came to American Roofing and Waterproofing about five years ago.
Speaker B:They were looking to bring somebody on to take care of residential customers.
Speaker B:They pretty much had the multifamily and commercial stuff taken care of, but they got quite a bit of, you know, people needing help on the residential side.
Speaker B:And so that was my focus for a couple of years, although I'd help out with commercial and multifamily stuff.
Speaker B:But yeah, I moved out here to Arizona.
Speaker B: Phoenix Metro September of: Speaker B:Started off, you know, doing the carpentry thing, tried to get into framing and was even working through the union.
Speaker B:The economy was changing, obviously, with COVID and it just seemed like carpentry wages weren't keeping up with what was happening with the economy and had a couple of options, you know, either get licensed as a general contractor, you know, look at a superintendent job.
Speaker B:But I discovered roofing.
Speaker B:I dabbled in it a little bit in San Diego.
Speaker B:So I thought, you know, I'm going to check on roofing again and see what's going on.
Speaker B:You know, construction is such a funny thing.
Speaker B:There's so many nuances to the different trades in construction.
Speaker B:You can be building for 20 years, you know, framing and think, you know, about roofing.
Speaker B:And once you get into it, it's.
Speaker B:There's a lot to learn.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker B:It definitely has.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It's not rocket science, but it has.
Speaker B:It has its own nuances, for sure.
Speaker B:So, yeah, came to American roofing and waterproofing and just loved working with these residential customers.
Speaker B:But, yeah, before that, the, the carpentry just wasn't.
Speaker B:Wasn't paying the bills, especially for what was coming with the economy.
Speaker B:But, yeah, it's been great.
Speaker C:You know, what, what.
Speaker C:What I found during the course that time, during COVID was the fact that everybody in the world was.
Speaker C:I mean, you know, a lot of changes happened during that time where not just the wages that were going pretty much got stagnant in framing.
Speaker C:They got stagnant in a lot of different traits.
Speaker C: nd I've been in Arizona since: Speaker C:Well, you see, one there was plumbing, one was H vac, one was electrical.
Speaker C:And all of a sudden, after Covid, people started.
Speaker C:Companies started combining some of their services just, I think, out of the course of survival, because if they didn't, they would have probably gone out of business.
Speaker C:So now you've got, you know, companies that do plumbing and H Vac.
Speaker C:You got other ones that are doing all three plumbing, H Vac and electric.
Speaker C:And it's like, okay.
Speaker C:And I'm sure they.
Speaker C:They've got qualified technicians for all that.
Speaker C:But again, the.
Speaker C:The market dictates a lot about, you know, the, the way the.
Speaker C:The companies go.
Speaker C:And I think a lot of them were in survival mode during that time.
Speaker C:So I can completely understand what you had seen in the framing industry.
Speaker C:But, but.
Speaker C:And even still, you know, I. I think there was some degree of that even with, with roofing.
Speaker C:Because all of a sudden, you know, people started doing, you know, doing roofing along with other parts of home maintenance.
Speaker C:And I'm like, okay, then you got to start looking at, okay, especially in today's market, okay, even if they are multifaceted, got to look at and see, okay, are they, what's, what's their history, where's again, like anything else.
Speaker C:Find out their testimonials and the people that they work with and referrals to be able to know that, yeah, they can do all these things, but are they good at all of them?
Speaker C:And I think roofing as you know, there are a lot of people out there, a lot of companies out there that claim to be able to know a lot of roofing.
Speaker C:And it doesn't make a difference if you have a license or not, because I know plenty of companies that, that have licenses that don't know what they're doing or even do good work.
Speaker C:So I mean, but that's a conversation for another, for another show.
Speaker C:But anyway, so yeah, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker C:Tell us a little more about, you know, American roofing and waterproofing.
Speaker C:You know, I.
Speaker C:The impression from your discussion that, you know, they were basically involved with a lot of commercial stuff before you came on board and expanded.
Speaker C:Expanded the horizon of what the company was able to offer.
Speaker B:Yeah, I would say that we're a roofer's roofer.
Speaker B:You know, owner is a local yokel.
Speaker B:He was on the roof himself for many years, then moved into supervising.
Speaker B:So we're not, you know, some company that is just trying to get into the market here because, you know, roofs degrade quicker in Arizona than a lot of places due to the weather, the heat, the, you know, the, the solar.
Speaker B:So yeah, so family owned company.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker B:At this point, I mean, we, we do basically all things roofing.
Speaker B:I mean, new construction, we've, we've, you know, roofed a lot of new construction.
Speaker B:Lots of commercial, lots of multi family.
Speaker B:We work with a lot of property managers, investment companies, that kind of thing.
Speaker B:And we've done quite a bit of residential roofing as well.
Speaker B:So yeah, I mean, it's really just all things roofing.
Speaker B:You know, the main three roofing types I would say out here are concrete tile, shingle and polyurethane foam roofing.
Speaker B:But there's still a lot of single membrane systems out here, more to do with commercial.
Speaker B:But yeah, we, we have all divisions, brick and mortar.
Speaker B:You know, we have our offices, our shop, our yard, our trucks.
Speaker B:We're not subbing out the work.
Speaker B:You know, we, we have a lot of in house folks and just a great team, family, company.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And very familiar with the Arizona roofing.
Speaker B:You know, it's roofing different regions can, you know, Arizona has its own thing.
Speaker B:So being a company with an owner that, you know, was on the roof and roofing, you know, for many years here in Arizona, I think makes a, makes a big difference.
Speaker C:Oh yeah, I'm sure it does.
Speaker C:And so when, when did they, what was, when did they get started?
Speaker C:What year?
Speaker B:You know, I came on, like I said, about five years ago and I know they had been rolling for a few years under American roofing and waterproofing, you know, so I think we're getting close to, close to a decade, you know, as American roofing and waterproofing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But folks can look us up on the rock.
Speaker B:Better Business Bureau, a five star Google review average.
Speaker B:But yeah, pushing a decade.
Speaker B:But like I said, our founder and CEO Kirk Manor Roofing is all he's been doing his whole life.
Speaker B:And yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And it's good when you have somebody that has started the business and was hands on as the company grows and now he could better see some of the pitfalls and some of the things that are going to affect going out into the market again.
Speaker C:You're always fighting some of these people who claim they're good roofers, but they're not really.
Speaker C:And I think that's why like any good company, if you're going to hire somebody, especially if you're going to invest in a new roof, that you need to go out and find a company that's going to be able to, you know, stand behind their work.
Speaker C:And I think that's so very important.
Speaker B:Agreed.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:But we're going to take a short break.
Speaker C:When we come back, we're going to have more with Scott and talking about getting into some of the different type of roofs and the servicing that needs to be done.
Speaker C:And if you having a problem with your roof like, like anything else, it's time to get it checked.
Speaker C:You know, do it sooner rather than later because you don't want to have a, you don't want to have a disaster.
Speaker C:So we're going to give you all that information when we come back from the break.
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Speaker C: -: Speaker C:All right, we are back and you're listening to Boxcar Universe and we are talking roof roofing today and we are here with Scott Lewis from American Roofing and Waterproofing and we're talking about some of the things that you need to be aware of of your for your home and your roof on your house.
Speaker C:You know Scott, I think one of the things that people need to know about, and I say this all the time, people need to have a healthy home check and it is so important to be able to do.
Speaker C:And when you say healthy home check, like what do you mean?
Speaker C:Well, you know there are a lot of things you can have a healthy home check with the different things in your house like roofing, H vac plumbing, things like that, hot water heater and all that.
Speaker C:Some of the vital things that make your day to day living good.
Speaker C:But then on the other hand too it could be something from a health reason.
Speaker C:Like I was speaking to a gentleman last night at an event he was talking about he actually does healthy home checks where he talks about the different materials that are affecting people's health that the homes were built with.
Speaker C:So Healthy home checks could be, you know, viewed in a couple of different ways.
Speaker C:But for the sake of our discussion today, we want to talk about, you know, think about, you know, how old is your roof, how old is your H Vac?
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And I think if people buy homes, they should have at least get all the information they could possibly get from the previous owner and any information that you could do.
Speaker C:Also, you can go figure out if there are any permitted, you know, remodeling done in your home by going to the city and checking for permits.
Speaker C:And they will tell you when it.
Speaker C:When a permit was done, when.
Speaker C:And what was the.
Speaker C:What was permitted.
Speaker C:Was it a room addition or.
Speaker C:Or whatever to be able to know and put a kind of picture together about what the.
Speaker C:What the home is like to get started with if you don't have exact, you know, dates and.
Speaker C:And the services that were performed in the maintenance of that home from the initial time that it was built.
Speaker C:But when you talk about roofing, people should be able to tell, especially when the people are selling their home or people are looking into buying our home.
Speaker C:I know, last home I built, you know, bought.
Speaker C:One of the things that I asked again was how old's the roof?
Speaker C:And if, you know, and then obviously if they say, well, it's the original roof, well, when was the house built?
Speaker C:And you could figure out.
Speaker C:Figure out when they are.
Speaker C:And then you.
Speaker C:At least when you get to that point, depending on the kind of roof you have, you.
Speaker C:You could figure out, how much more longevity do I have with the roof that's on there?
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker C:You know, and I think that some of the challenges.
Speaker C:And let's talk about tile roofing first, because I think a lot of homeowners, you know, tile is very misleading when people look at it and they say, well, you know, I got a tile roof, you know, what do you mean?
Speaker C:It looks good.
Speaker C:It looks great.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:But I. I have no leaks.
Speaker C:Well, you know, that's all right now, but, you know, that goes on the same order of termites.
Speaker C:You know, like, either there's two kinds of homes in Arizona, homes that have termites and ones that will get them.
Speaker C:Well, ones that are going to get leaks eventually, too.
Speaker C:So these are things you got to be careful of.
Speaker C:But let's talk a little bit about tile roofs.
Speaker C:And especially, you know, what goes bad is the underlayment.
Speaker B:Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker B:I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker B:I was thinking about the same thing.
Speaker B:Tile roofs are very deceptive.
Speaker B:They look great.
Speaker B:You know, the tile.
Speaker B:The most Popular most used concrete tile.
Speaker B:Of course there's clay tile and some variants in there, but concrete tile lasts a long time.
Speaker B:For the most part.
Speaker B:That concrete just keeps curing and getting harder.
Speaker B:You know, concrete tile is known to last a lifetime plus so.
Speaker B:But like you said, it's the underlayment that you don't see that's your waterproofing barrier for the roof.
Speaker B:You know those, those tiles are not really designed to be your waterproofing barrier.
Speaker B:Those cracks in the tiles, not just the seams, you know, going left to right, but the way that they overlay.
Speaker B:And we know what can happen during monsoon season.
Speaker B:And it doesn't even have to be an angled, you know, high wind driven rain like that for water to get in there.
Speaker B:They're designed for water to make it through the cracks to a certain extent and drain underneath the tile over your underlayment.
Speaker B:And we know if it's 115 degrees outside, you know, how hot is it underneath those tile?
Speaker B:That underlayment's probably, you know, cooking like it is in a easy bake oven.
Speaker C:It's probably just as hot as the attic.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Or hotter.
Speaker C:Probably even hotter.
Speaker C:But I know the attic sometimes, you know, my home inspector went up to the attic sometimes.
Speaker C:He was telling me, you know, he's doing the temperature check while he's up there.
Speaker C:He said, Steve is like 140 there today.
Speaker C:I'm like, why didn't you go up earlier?
Speaker C:Don't go up there when it's that hot.
Speaker C:But I mean, I understand sometimes you have to do certain things at certain times of the day, but you've got to be, you've got to be careful especially.
Speaker C:But again the, the underlayment could go bad.
Speaker C:And I think there has been progression along the way over the years for underlayment to designed better.
Speaker C:It's not just your typical, especially the install 15 or 30 pound felt anymore.
Speaker C:Now you've got more advanced type of underlayment.
Speaker B: s and even early: Speaker B:Barely overlapped it.
Speaker B:And then on top of the underlayment are the batten boards.
Speaker B:You know, most tile roofs, especially concrete tile roofs, have batten boards.
Speaker B:The little, you know, one by two boards that are nailed directly over the underlayment for every row of tile that that tile hooks onto.
Speaker B:And so you get that underlayment curling because it was just stapled down and it's been, you Know, going from extreme heat moisture in monsoon season, we actually get more rain, you know, per inch during the winter than monsoon season.
Speaker B:Just more extreme storms during monsoon season.
Speaker B:Then, you know, maybe we'll get a couple of 30 degree nights a year.
Speaker B:You just go back and forth with that, you know, over 10, 20 years, that underlayment, you know, it really takes a toll on it.
Speaker B:But that those laps in the underlayment, the word overlaps will start to curl up and you know, for some reason, I don't know if it was the housing boom that happened in the 90s that they were using those slap tacker staplers to put down the underlayment.
Speaker B:And unlike shingles that sit flat over the top of your underlayment, holding your underlayment flat with that tile, there's a nice air gap between the tile and the underlayment.
Speaker B:And so it gives it room for that underlayment to curl up.
Speaker B:And then with the water draining underneath the tile over the underlayment, hitting those batten boards kind of like a sleuth's box and building up at, at every row of batten boards, if your underlayment isn't nailed down properly and it's curling up, then water can get up under your underlayment, which is what we see, you know, quite a bit.
Speaker B:Especially with, you know, homes that are 15, 20 years plus.
Speaker B:I would, I don't know what the true statistic is.
Speaker B:I've heard about 50% of all the roofing that happens here in the Phoenix metro area.
Speaker B:And from our experience, it's, it lines up is having to, you know, re what we would call a underlayment, R and R, you know, remove and replace.
Speaker B: s and early: Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, I know for the fact that sometimes, you know, when leaks do arise and over the years, you know, being I started out as doing handyman work and then became a general contractor, the, the problem happened was the fact that I used to see like people used to put down underlayment.
Speaker C:I mean, and it's not a good idea to put down underlayment when it's too cold because that stuff, when it gets hot, it's going to expand.
Speaker C:And what I've seen people put it down and they tack it like you said.
Speaker C:And then all of a sudden when it gets hot, all of a sudden it starts rippling because it expanded.
Speaker C:It's got nowhere to go except it ripples.
Speaker B:Expansion and Contractions, definitely.
Speaker C:And that'll create cracks.
Speaker C:And then before you know it, and then the next thing.
Speaker C:Next thing that I found, which was really good when the cracks do develop is I have my home inspector go out with his infrared and he shoots the roof to see exactly where the moisture is concentrated.
Speaker C:So at least we have a good working idea of, okay, the water came in here and then this is where it's going.
Speaker C:Because water will obviously take its.
Speaker C:Take it, run its lowest course, depending on the gravity, and then it'll start.
Speaker C:But using the infrared is the best way I found to be able to find the leak.
Speaker C:And then if you want to go back in and if you do have tile, then you can go back and just remove an area of tile.
Speaker C:And usually you should be able to find it and then do a repair, as long as it's not too old.
Speaker C:But if it's like you say, if it's.
Speaker C:If the underlayment's really brittle, well, then it's time for a tile remove removal and replace.
Speaker C:It's just no underlayment for sure.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean, it just gets to be too much.
Speaker C:And, you know, some people get taken aback by, well, you know, how much does it cost to remove and replace my tub?
Speaker C:Well, you're not replacing.
Speaker C:You just removing it.
Speaker C:And you are replacing it, but you're not replacing it with new tile.
Speaker C:But still, there's a lot of.
Speaker C:That's labor intensive, very labor intensive, you know, and it's.
Speaker C:People have to understand that, you know.
Speaker B:It'S going to happen oftentimes.
Speaker B:Replacing the underlayment system and the batten boards and all the flashings and everything that goes along with it on a tile roof costs more per square foot than it does to tear off and replace a shingle roof just because of how labor intensive it is.
Speaker B:So when you think of a tile roof replacement in Arizona, it's really the underlayment, flashing, batten boards, that whole waterproofing system that's underneath the tile.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's very labor intensive.
Speaker B:But a lot of folks that have lived here for a while, they.
Speaker B:They know about it.
Speaker B:I'd say it's about half and half, you know, because they'll see their neighbors getting it done.
Speaker B: ly, early to, you know, maybe: Speaker B:But yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's essentially a roof replacement.
Speaker B:But those concrete tile are in great.
Speaker C:Shape, you know, but, you know, there's so many.
Speaker C:Most of the time, there's so many HOAs here in the Valley.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:You would think a lot of the homes would, you know, they, they're all going to be, if they were all built to similar times within the stretch of the course of a year, that, that they're going to need the same kind of things, you know, same checks and inspections.
Speaker C:And I would think that an hoa, you know, if they really.
Speaker C:Because, you know, we all know hoas could be a really good thing or they could be a real pain in the neck.
Speaker C:And if they turn around, if they would put in there.
Speaker B:And we've worked with a lot of them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C: homes that were built between: Speaker C:Bing, bing, bing, bing.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:And see and have a qualified licensed contractor come in and inspect this to let you know what's going on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And even the stuff that's newer, I mean, if your underlayment hasn't been replaced, you know, in 15, 20 years, then, you know, it's, it's, it's, it could be very likely.
Speaker B:But even roofs that were installed five years ago, you know, it's good to have them checked.
Speaker B:There's other nuances to the roof that need maintenance and need checking, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, a lot of companies out there, they have, you know, they offer, they offer free roof inspections.
Speaker B:Yes, we offer.
Speaker C:So why not, why not call Scott and say, hey, come out and check my roof.
Speaker C:You know, tell me how old it is.
Speaker C:It gives you an idea of.
Speaker B:Do they need my phone number?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Well, we'll get to that.
Speaker C:Before the end of the show.
Speaker C:We're going to give Scott's contact information out, but we're going to take another break and when we come back, we're going to talk a little shingle, a little foam, and I also want to touch a little bit about, you know, for those of you who are thinking about solar for your home, roofing is definitely a part of something that you need to talk about and think about before you put solar on your home.
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Speaker C:So let's get into a little bit.
Speaker C:You know, I got to tell you a little story.
Speaker C:Let's talk a little about, well, well, it could be a love story about foam, okay?
Speaker C:Polyurethane foam roof, okay?
Speaker C:So magical foam.
Speaker C:I, my friend, my friend Dan Hayden from DEC Built Consultants, I mentioned him, my home inspector, we had gone to a home years ago over, I think it was in Scottsdale, and this guy had a leak.
Speaker C:He had a flat roof.
Speaker C:And we, we went up on the roof and it was like in between rainstorms.
Speaker C:So it was.
Speaker C:It's kind of wet up there already.
Speaker C:Anyway, so we did the infrared, okay?
Speaker C:And we checked it out and he, he took a.
Speaker C:Did a whole inspection report on it.
Speaker C:And he showed the owner after, you know, he got the report done and we went through with him and he literally looked at, looked at.
Speaker C:Now he's got a leak.
Speaker C:Scott, think about this.
Speaker C:The guy has got a leak in his house, not to mention, you know, he's got drywall damage because he's.
Speaker C:There's a leak there, okay?
Speaker C:So he turns around and he looks at the report and we're telling him why water is coming from certain areas and why the infrared looks the way it does.
Speaker C:And he turned around and he actually was in denial of the infrared.
Speaker C:And he said, no, the water can't be coming from there.
Speaker C:And I'm like, infrared doesn't lie.
Speaker C:Did you not see the movie Predator?
Speaker C:Come on now.
Speaker C:I mean, you know, what's hot is hot, what's wet is wet.
Speaker C:Blue is water.
Speaker C:That's wet.
Speaker C:That's, that's where it's coming from.
Speaker C:But he denied it.
Speaker C:And then he, he actually was saying, well, he didn't need to get his roof coated.
Speaker C:And I'm like, you know, and then when you get somebody, a homeowner that's in denial like that, okay, you can only give them the information that what your inspection showed, and that's it.
Speaker C:If they don't want to accept it, you know, it's, you know, you can't, you can't, you know, can't twist his arm.
Speaker C:I mean, he's not going to believe, he's not going to believe it.
Speaker C:But how, what's the, the longevity in foam roofs and how long do they need to, how long can you go between recodings?
Speaker B:Well, it obviously depends on a few factors, but typically the average residential and a lot of commercial stuff, 1 to 2 inches of foam is put down and anywhere from, you know, two to three to, you know, four coats, typically five years per coat, you got to build it up in, in coats, in layers and the way the colors get layered too, of the acrylic, so you can, you know, see when your, your top layers are starting to burn off.
Speaker B:But typically, you know, 10 years, two coat system, you know, is the, is the minimum.
Speaker B:But still, still good to get it checked, you know, more often than that because there's other factors, you know.
Speaker C:Now, is there anything to be said about when you go up and look at a roof and, you know, maybe after a rainstorm and take a look at it in the way of, does the amount of ponding that you see of water on the roof directly reflect the application?
Speaker C:It was done by the previous roofer.
Speaker B: long as it's evaporating off: Speaker B:You know, there's specs for that.
Speaker B:It's hard for a flat roof not to pond, or a low slope roof is more of what we call it because it should be pitched in some kind of way, you know, either off the leading edge or slope towards drains, scuppers, that kind of thing.
Speaker B:But yeah, it does make a difference.
Speaker B:You know, you definitely do not want too much ponding water, you know, for a lot of different reasons, you know.
Speaker C:But yeah, because I know, I know for a fact, like when people understand like you go up and do a roof inspection and I think again, some people just out of sight, out of mind, you know, if they're around trees, you know, all that stuff, the leaves and everything blow onto flat roofs and then when it does rain, it washes down and clogs the scuppers definitely.
Speaker C:And then water can't drain out.
Speaker C:I mean, and that's a lot of the ones that I've seen in the past where thinking about, okay, so where's the water penetration coming down through this wall?
Speaker C:It's because there was clogged scuppers.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker B:That's a big culprit on these at low slope.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Flat roofs.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:And, and you know, and you as you, as a roofer, you've got to, you've got to look at something and see the little bit of humor in it and a little bit of the sadness in it.
Speaker C:When you go down the road and you see a home, it's got a pitch roof, you know that there's, there's a shingle roof underneath that layer of elastomeric coating that somebody rolled on top of it.
Speaker C:Like, please give my roof another couple.
Speaker B:Horrible idea, you know, may not be the most aesthetically pleasing thing.
Speaker C:No, it's not.
Speaker C:It's like painting your house purple.
Speaker C:It looks just as bad.
Speaker C:Yeah, but, yeah, but I mean, I understand why they did it, but you know, it looks just, it just looks.
Speaker B:Like, well, it's Phoenix.
Speaker B:They don't go outside.
Speaker C:It looks like, it looks like Mickey Mouse, you know, came by and did.
Speaker B:That six months out of the year.
Speaker C:You know, I mean, at least if they were going to use elastomeric covered.
Speaker C:If you had a brown shingle roof, you should try and get brown tint or brown elastomeric and at least make it look.
Speaker C:Although that blend in a little to the landscape.
Speaker B:My suggestion would be have a reputable local roofer like us tear your old roof off and put a light colored shingle up there so you can get that solar reflectivity index.
Speaker C:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker B:You know, down.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, but we do see those out here and, and I don't knock them.
Speaker B:You know, I understand what they're trying to do.
Speaker B:They're trying to extend the, the life of their roof and, and that white coating helps reflect the heat in the sun.
Speaker B:But like you said, it's not the best looking thing.
Speaker B:A better Option would be to get a nice local reputable roofer to put you a nice light colored shingle up there.
Speaker C:Okay, so I, okay, so here's a, here's a, here's a great question and I know you've probably seen this.
Speaker C:Okay, what's the most amount of roofs, shingle roofs have you seen on one home?
Speaker B:Oh, I mean we've seen some things like.
Speaker C:Oh goodness, you're taking more, more than the allowed to.
Speaker B:Oh, yes, I gosh, I'm trying to think of this.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:This was this 100 year old home that I think it had five layers of shingles really.
Speaker B:Five layers.
Speaker B:And the deeper you dug you were most certainly getting into asbestos, you know.
Speaker C:Oh sure, absolutely.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, yeah, if it's been on there that long, I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, you just don't know.
Speaker C:But you know, you're adding, you know, people don't think about it, you know.
Speaker B:Which is not allowed by the way.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Two roofing systems max, which nobody really.
Speaker B:That's worth their weight and salt.
Speaker B:I guess you'd say shingles over even flat 3.3Tap Shingles much anymore.
Speaker B:It's best just to tear it down, tear it off.
Speaker B:You know, we'd send a little army of a dozen guys up there.
Speaker B:They'll have that thing, you know, stripped by breakfast and that way you can see the wood decking, you know, you see might need to be, need to replace some of that, start fresh, put down some new synthetic underlayment.
Speaker B:But yeah, that was a big practice, you know, back in the day is just shingle right over it.
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean I've seen some people like that.
Speaker C:But on the other hand too is you.
Speaker C:And again it's not saying that it's not acceptable but you know, it in certain situations, certain situations, if the original.
Speaker B:Roof, most of the time not.
Speaker C:It'S not if some of the, you know, the stuff is curled.
Speaker C:The original shingles are curled.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:I mean you can't get architectural dimensional shingles.
Speaker B:You really don't want to roof over those, that's for sure.
Speaker C:No, and you don't want to put something over that and have the roof.
Speaker C:When you stand back, you know, across the street and look at your roof and it looks like it is a wave in your roof.
Speaker C:You know, it doesn't, it doesn't look good.
Speaker B:Not a good look.
Speaker C:It isn't.
Speaker C:But you know, as I said earlier, we were talking a little bit about, you know, this, the solar aspect of when people want to get solar on their home.
Speaker C:And like I Said that's the first thing I do is I ask them, you know, how old is your roof?
Speaker C:Because I'm not going to put solar on somebody's house and make penetrations in your, whatever it is, shingles or we make cutouts and attach it to the roof through the tile and stuff like that without having you replace the roof.
Speaker B:Oh, I hate having to tell a homeowner that just got solar put on two or three years ago that the solar company didn't inform them that their roof was going to be needing to be replaced very soon.
Speaker B:Or maybe it needed to be even replaced when they put the solar on.
Speaker B:And now they got to pay the cost to have all that solar temporarily removed in order to get the re roof done.
Speaker B:Which is more costly than you think it would be.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker B:You know, it takes special licensing for that.
Speaker B:It's, it's a, it's quite a cost.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, I appreciate you saying that, that you try to, you know, let them know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, ahead of time.
Speaker C:I don't want to let, I don't want to see them spend more money than they have to, obviously.
Speaker C:Because, because we all work hard for our money and you know, to spend money like that and you know, I'd feel I couldn't sleep at night if I, if I did that.
Speaker C:I mean it just, you know, you want to be able to do your best for your customer and knowing that they have peace of mind when they go home and go to sleep.
Speaker B:And I mean, I would like to believe that some solar folks that have done that out there, maybe they didn't even know any better.
Speaker B:Like we were talking about with tile roofs.
Speaker B:The tile roof to a layman can look like it's in great shape when underneath that concrete tile, it's not.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean especially like you say, if it, if they lift up a tie, you do an inspection, if it, it crumbles in your hand, it's toast, it's time for something new.
Speaker B:That's definitely an indicator, but a lot of it is that curling overlap.
Speaker B:They just, they didn't overlap it very good for the most part.
Speaker B:And use those slap tacker staples instead.
Speaker C:Of cap nails and I bet you they just overlapped.
Speaker C:They never even glued it intact it, right?
Speaker B:Oh, definitely not.
Speaker B:I mean there's, there's a lot of nice self adhered products now in the.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:As far as underlayment, you don't have to use a self adhered underlayment.
Speaker B:There's a lot of great, you know, mechanically fastened.
Speaker B:It's just Using the right fasteners, you know, a staple isn't holding much.
Speaker B:There's not, you know, much, you know, surface there to be holding the paper down.
Speaker C:Well, they were counting the staples from the shingle to hold the underlayment down further.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Then don't staple your shingles.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Don't staple your sink.
Speaker C:That's true.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Use nails.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I mean, it gets to be.
Speaker B:Oh, we do run into that, too.
Speaker C:It gets to be a little bit crazy, you know, when people start improvising.
Speaker C:And that's like I always said, a homeowner with tools could be a dangerous thing.
Speaker C:And please, if you're a homeowner, do not go up on your roof.
Speaker B:Oh, I just.
Speaker C:Do not do that.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:I think it was a week before last, a gentleman in his late 60s, he had fallen off of his roof, and he now has many, you know, pins rods, screws in the whole right side of his body.
Speaker C:No, it's not worth it.
Speaker B:Yeah, it just.
Speaker B:It just takes one.
Speaker B:One little accident.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Take it from somebody who has fallen off a roof.
Speaker B:I'd hate to Google the statistics on homeowners falling off their roofs.
Speaker C:You know, if you need somebody to check it, call somebody qualified, pay the money.
Speaker C:It's not worth it.
Speaker B:And we'll check it for free.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, because we're there to help.
Speaker C:You know, if.
Speaker C:I mean, anytime I've gone up on the roof, I see.
Speaker C:If I see anything else of what I'm looking for, I always advise the homeowner because it's like, you know, it's almost like my duty to, you know.
Speaker B:And I can understand folks wanting to be a little.
Speaker B:Do it themselves kind of almost getting into a little homesteading, the way they, you know, feel about taking care of their home.
Speaker B:But that danger factor definitely increases the need to call a professional, I believe.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean, that's just.
Speaker C:I mean, not only that, it's common sense.
Speaker C:You need to have some common sense.
Speaker C:Don't do something stupid if you don't think.
Speaker C:I mean, if he's in his late 60s, he shouldn't even be thinking about going up on his roof.
Speaker C:That's not saying he's not fit, but it's not the right.
Speaker C:The norm.
Speaker B:We'll say yes.
Speaker B:And I would never advise any homeowner to go on their roof, especially when they can call us for a free inspection.
Speaker B:We can show them photos of what's going on up there.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah, and.
Speaker C:And that'll definitely.
Speaker C:That'll definitely work.
Speaker C:But anyway, so we Want to just touch base a little more.
Speaker C:One thing about, you know, we talked about shingles, tile roof.
Speaker C:Let's talk about, let's talk about, you know, financing, finance and especially that's so important because it's such a big ticket item for a home.
Speaker C:Let's talk a little bit about financing.
Speaker C:What is, what does your company do in the way of financing?
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, we, we, we partner with a company and it's, it's easy financing.
Speaker B:You know, there's, there's a lot of great options.
Speaker B:You know, there's like 12 month, same as cash options for those that are, you know, may have bonuses or tax returns or other reasons that they're looking to get it paid 12 months.
Speaker B:But there's also long term, easy financing options as well.
Speaker B:I personally am not out to talk anybody into financing, but when it comes to a roof and leaks and causing more problems, interior damage, structural damage, sometimes it's an option that's needed.
Speaker B:You know, not everybody has, you know, 15, 20, 30, $40,000 ready to go pay for a brand new roof.
Speaker B:And so sometimes that's a, that's a viable option for sure.
Speaker B:And we can, we can always help out with that.
Speaker C:What's your experience been especially dealing with insurance companies in, in roof damage?
Speaker C:Yes, I know, I know it's one of those subjects that, you know, that we almost talk about.
Speaker C:Even though it's, it's, I guess they fall in the same category as, you know, some of the.
Speaker C:Well, I shouldn't say that, but when the famous, our famous cable company here in the valley, you know, that's, they're on my list too, but anyway.
Speaker C:But insurance companies, or we could say car salesmen.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, they're not the worst.
Speaker B:I'm not going to, you know, say anything bad, wink, wink.
Speaker B:But yeah, the, the storm damage.
Speaker B:Before I moved to Phoenix, I never thought there was like you said, monsoons.
Speaker B:If you're not somebody that's familiar with Phoenix, you hear the word monsoon, you don't really think of Phoenix, you know, and what is a monsoon?
Speaker B:You know, all that moisture that comes up.
Speaker B:But it's more than that.
Speaker B:It's, it's some unpredictable extreme weather.
Speaker B:I mean, I've been caught out there and you know, golf ball sized hail before.
Speaker B:Out in Buckeye, you know, we get pockets where you can get significant hail coming down that will absolutely damage a roof.
Speaker B:Yeah, micro bursts.
Speaker C:What year was it?
Speaker C:The great hailstorm of Phoenix.
Speaker C:What was that in, Was that.
Speaker B: Well, I moved here in: Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:And we've, and I've worked, you know, a few hail pockets here and there's hail down in Tucson, you know, a few times a year.
Speaker B:It seems like the past couple of years.
Speaker C:I remember, I remember that in the air, the, I can't remember the year, but the pocket area that you're talking about was like in the like Peoria, Lindell area.
Speaker B:I mean it's happened all over the valley, everywhere.
Speaker B:I've seen I've been on a foam roof that had Easter egg hell that really, that had, you know, came down on it and they never had it repaired correctly.
Speaker B:Just coated over it and you know.
Speaker C:Created kind of like prayed for the best.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:And I've been caught in the.
Speaker B:When I first moved here, I was working out in Buckeye as a journeyman carpenter through the union on a building a power substation.
Speaker B:And I had no clue.
Speaker B:I wasn't from here.
Speaker B:I'd only been here for about a month or so.
Speaker B:And here comes this storm rolling in in October and out of nowhere, you know, almost golf ball sized hell shooting out the sky 100 miles an hour.
Speaker B:I thought, what the heck is going on?
Speaker B:I thought, I thought the desert was just rattlesnakes, scorpions and cacti and the microbursts.
Speaker B:I mean I've seen some crazy stuff from the microbursts.
Speaker B:I've had folks have pole barns ripped out and tear through their house, giant eucalyptus trees out in McCormick Ranch, take out nine trusses and blow out their drywall lid, their ceiling on their house.
Speaker B:I got, I chased a microburst cell one day thinking I was cute after watching the Twisters 2 movie with my kids the weekend.
Speaker C:You feel, were you feeling okay?
Speaker B:I was, I just watched Twisters 2 with my kids.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:And I was in a forum of storm, you know, roofers and they, one of them had mentioned that this cell was popping up in Glendale and I was going out to get something to eat kind of late that night by myself around 8:00.
Speaker B:And I said, you know what, let me check the radar.
Speaker B:I want to see where this thing is.
Speaker B:And I thought, you know what, I think I could meet up with this thing on the 10 freeway and see what it's all about.
Speaker B:And boy, do I regret it.
Speaker B:I mean that was one of the worst, you know, high wind micro bursts that I've heard of here.
Speaker B:You know, they had 100 mile an hour.
Speaker B:You know, typically a bad microburst wind is, you know, 60 plus.
Speaker B:That'll damage a roof.
Speaker B:But this sucker hit 100, it blew out, you know, concrete, tilt up warehouses, you know, ripping trees out of the ground.
Speaker B:I was in my truck, you know, shaking back and forth, you know, clinching up.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:Regretting, regretting my decision.
Speaker C:Why did I ever make this decision?
Speaker B:Never again.
Speaker B:It's, it's like a lot of things, it's, it's not, not quite as exciting as the movies make it out to be, but that was a tough one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Bunny trail words of wisdom from Scott.
Speaker C:Okay, for all our listeners out there, don't watch a movie, especially a disaster movie, and then go out, try and find the disaster.
Speaker C:Don't do it.
Speaker C:You're going to be asking for trouble.
Speaker B:Those microbursts, I don't know, they should call them something else because microburst doesn't make it sound as serious as it really is.
Speaker C:Well, you know, that's, well, they come up with all these special names and stuff like that, you know.
Speaker C:And again, you're talking about how, you know, dust effects, you know, within the monsoon storm.
Speaker C:But you know, I don't know who get a lot of dust came up with that term Haboobs.
Speaker B:Must be foreign.
Speaker C:It must be foreign.
Speaker B:There's some, there's some funny names that some people like to, to call the haboob, of course.
Speaker C:Well, you know, and I'm sure it came, I'm sure this has some history behind that word.
Speaker C:It's got to be.
Speaker B:We'll ask Chat GBT later.
Speaker C:Yes, we'll do that later.
Speaker C:That's our new friend, chatgpt.
Speaker C:All right, Scott, tell our listeners how they can contact you and get their roof checked before it's too late.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm at scott l@americanroofingnow.com Again, that's Scott with two T's, Scot L for my last name, Louis, but just Scott L at American Roofing.
Speaker B: -: Speaker B: -: Speaker B:And like a lot of folks these days, the most definite thing that I would see is a text message.
Speaker B:But don't be afraid to call either.
Speaker B:Our office down in southeast Phoenix.
Speaker B: -: Speaker B:And they can also go to our website, americanroofingnow.com and check us out there and there's some options to book a free inspection.
Speaker B:But yeah, thank you.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:And Just for all our listeners as well.
Speaker C:You know, American roofing is in Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada and the great state of Texas.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:So make sure that if you are in the, in, in those states, make sure you look them up and you'll get a qualified representative if you're outside of Arizona, if you're in Arizona, Scott will come by and take a look at your home for you.
Speaker C:And we really appreciate you being on and give us our, our summer monsoon update roof check show because that's what we always do every year because it's so very important because that's a good.
Speaker B:Time to get an inspection.
Speaker C:Sometimes we have to like shock the listeners and wow, man, I need to do that.
Speaker B:The rain's coming.
Speaker C:The rain's coming.
Speaker B:It's running a little late, but we're going to get it.
Speaker C:It'll happen and it'll happen.
Speaker B:We'll no doubt get some extreme stuff too.
Speaker C:And then, you know, the people have had their head buried in the sand will wake up.
Speaker C:Oh, the phone rings quick and oh.
Speaker B:My God, as that rain starts falling, their phone rings real quick.
Speaker C:And the one thing I do want to make sure before we, we wrap up the show is again, please beware out there.
Speaker C:There are a lot of scammers out there trying to do roof repair after storms especially because that's when most of the homeowners are most vulnerable.
Speaker C:When you have a lot of bad weather, that's the first thing.
Speaker C:They're out there combing the neighborhoods.
Speaker C:I don't care if it's an HOA neighborhood, a non HOA neighborhood, makes no difference.
Speaker C:They're out there trying to get you to throw them some money and then they're going to do a shabby repair on your roof.
Speaker C:Please don't look at that and say I can save a lot of money.
Speaker C:Just, you know, just there's some good.
Speaker B:Storm damage, you know, geared roofing companies and we can definitely help with storm damage roofs.
Speaker B:But there is a lot of out of towners that come in right door knocking and they may just be subcontracting the workout and trying to get in between the businesses.
Speaker B:You know, kind of like a broker rather than an actual contractor like us.
Speaker C:They're in, they're, they're, they will call them one word opportunists.
Speaker C:That's what they're there, they're, they're trying to take advantage of a, of a bad situation and unfortunately a lot of people do, you know, do that.
Speaker C:But I think a large majority of them probably regret it later on down the road.
Speaker B:Stick with the local company.
Speaker C:Stick with the local company.
Speaker C:Make sure that you call American roofing and waterproofing.
Speaker C:And for all our listeners, we want to thank you for listening to Boxcar Universe.
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Speaker C:Have a great week.
Speaker F:You're a great American.
Speaker F:I love you.
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